tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9959776.post7996957535053882808..comments2024-02-15T04:42:41.606+00:00Comments on James' Empty Blog: Govt policy "reprehensible" says Science and Technology committeeJames Annanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04318741813895533700noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9959776.post-34501855097234456912010-04-01T13:10:52.359+01:002010-04-01T13:10:52.359+01:00> They spin their "wheel of fortune" ...> They spin their "wheel of fortune" and the same old pap turns up again eventually.<br /><br />Quite. I noticed Soon & Baliunas 2003 doing the rounds again today. I thought it must be an April Fool at first, but no...moolinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9959776.post-22746777795579975962010-03-31T21:00:15.069+01:002010-03-31T21:00:15.069+01:00Whatever the other issues, I am extremely pleased ...Whatever the other issues, I am extremely pleased for Prof. Jones that he has been effectively exonerated by the committee. I hope (and expect) the other two investigations will make similar findings and he can get back to some sort of normality.Dikran Marsupialnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9959776.post-15986764640706370582010-03-31T20:56:49.702+01:002010-03-31T20:56:49.702+01:00Spot on. I'm not so sure that climatology is ...Spot on. I'm not so sure that climatology is that different from most sciences in sharing data and code.<br /><br />The other point is that if the government want well curated publicly available data and maintained code, then they need to provide funds for it. I make some of my research code available on my website; the only reason I don't make it all available is that I don't have the time to get all of my code into sufficiently bullet proof conditions that it could be safely given to others in my field for general use.Dikran Marsupialnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9959776.post-45292733878386191612010-03-31T14:44:41.178+01:002010-03-31T14:44:41.178+01:00They don't need anything new to criticise.
Th...They don't need anything new to criticise.<br /><br />They spin their "wheel of fortune" and the same old pap turns up again eventually. "Anyone for hockey?" "Water vapour is the..." "Global warming! What about all this snow?" ...<br /><br />On the Guardian: I must say I find the lack of clarity on whether it was a press conference quote or a report quote quite "reprehensible", especially as they quote from the report.P. Lewishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08586624400531767627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9959776.post-74429411018505757692010-03-31T14:33:45.897+01:002010-03-31T14:33:45.897+01:00True enough. Still, the S&T report says scient...True enough. Still, the S&T report says scientists should release data and code "Had both been available, many of the problems at UEA could have been avoided."<br />=wishful thinking!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03644887887692439791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9959776.post-68793105592544787842010-03-31T14:28:18.317+01:002010-03-31T14:28:18.317+01:00"They will always find something new to criti..."They will always find something new to criticise."<br /><br />I agree 100% with that. OTOH that isn't actually a reason not to be open either :-)James Annanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04318741813895533700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9959776.post-12077628349989690262010-03-31T14:05:42.461+01:002010-03-31T14:05:42.461+01:00(just looked at the torygraph article. To be stric...(just looked at the torygraph article. To be strictly accurate it should say "reprehensible... according to Phil Willis MP")<br /><br />another point they fail to acknowledge is that NASA GISS faces continued attacks from 'sceptics' despite being completely open and transparent. They will always find something new to criticise.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03644887887692439791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9959776.post-3908953837097750892010-03-31T13:57:07.638+01:002010-03-31T13:57:07.638+01:00james, yes, that's exactly where it came from ...james, yes, that's exactly where it came from (I was there). Evan Harris, another S&T committee member made clear he did not agree with use of the term. No surprise that certain people would like to create the impression that the word was in the report's conclusions (rather than just in quotes from Lawson and Montford).<br /><br />I recommend either roger harrabin or (for once) the daily mail. Both have clearer and more accurate accounts of the report<br />http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8595483.stm<br />http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1262403/Climategate-university-condemned-unacceptable-culture-secrecy.html<br /><br />(with the exception that the mail, as does the guardian uses the word 'secrecy' which does not appear in the report or press release.)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03644887887692439791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9959776.post-68117884798915895632010-03-31T13:44:52.688+01:002010-03-31T13:44:52.688+01:00The Torygraph has a longer quote with the same wor...The <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7538446/University-of-East-Anglia-refused-to-share-information-on-global-warming.html" rel="nofollow">Torygraph</a> has a longer quote with the same word, it sounds like it came from a press conference.James Annanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04318741813895533700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9959776.post-70590620009744770072010-03-31T13:34:11.880+01:002010-03-31T13:34:11.880+01:00Willis didn't say "reprehensible" in...Willis didn't say "reprehensible" in the report (so far as my search of the pdf goes). Nigel Lawson did (on p. 20) and "Andrew Montford" did (on p. 28).<br /><br />So, was Willis interviewed by Randerson for this piece? It's not clear from the Guardian piece that he was. Randerson's implication certainly seems to be that Willis's use of that word was in the report.P. Lewishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08586624400531767627noreply@blogger.com