tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9959776.post9028364297242396788..comments2024-02-15T04:42:41.606+00:00Comments on James' Empty Blog: Open access publishingJames Annanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04318741813895533700noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9959776.post-48696202840260098432007-11-24T04:17:00.000+00:002007-11-24T04:17:00.000+00:00You can get paper copies of the EGU journals, for ...You can get paper copies of the EGU journals, for a price. Open access and on-line access are not quite the same thing.<BR/><BR/>I do enjoy leafing though journals on occasion, and in some ways it can even be more efficient than using web pages. But the cost and inaccessibility is a large downside.<BR/><BR/>Our institute was going to unsubscribe from several major climate journals on the grounds that Jamstec's other institutes didn't want them ("Boat-builder Weekly" is more their thing). Not sure what happened to that plan in the end. A "consensus" was reached, no doubt.James Annanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04318741813895533700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9959776.post-46982203146255039342007-11-23T20:11:00.000+00:002007-11-23T20:11:00.000+00:00Old fart that I am, I am not yet willing to let go...Old fart that I am, I am not yet willing to let go of paper journals completely. That has a cost.EliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9959776.post-77252244564374145192007-11-23T11:17:00.000+00:002007-11-23T11:17:00.000+00:00FWIW one of the exec editors told me that he thoug...FWIW one of the exec editors told me that he thought the whole enterprise (all EGU journals together) was around break-even, although it must be hard to demarcate the costs precisely.James Annanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04318741813895533700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9959776.post-55826521486346443912007-11-23T10:23:00.000+00:002007-11-23T10:23:00.000+00:00I agree the whole concept is not yet well establis...I agree the whole concept is not yet well established, but otoh it seems to me the only way in which journals really add value compared to the arxiv is through the peer-review process, which is the bit scientists do for free anyway! So there really should be a way of getting it to work if the will is there.James Annanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04318741813895533700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9959776.post-83960017188753829692007-11-22T09:27:00.000+00:002007-11-22T09:27:00.000+00:00I'm given to understand that the open access EGU j...I'm given to understand that the open access EGU journals are significanty subsidised, and there is some argument about how they expect to transition away from that subsidy ... so your comment about them not being subsidised in the long term has yet to have any validity.<BR/><BR/>Which is not to say that I disagree with you, but that the business models which need to exist are not yet as clear as folk like to present.Bryan Lawrencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15262374835889009894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9959776.post-68075188082843630092007-11-21T14:51:00.000+00:002007-11-21T14:51:00.000+00:00Journals getting articles for free to then charge ...Journals getting articles for free to then charge a fortune (to libraries or pay per view) is also one of my pet concerns about the current system of scientific publishing. <BR/><BR/>The scientific research is government sponsored for the public good, it should be freely available.Heikohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839810379331430109noreply@blogger.com