tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9959776.post7507976500287605816..comments2024-02-15T04:42:41.606+00:00Comments on James' Empty Blog: Wingnuttery or satire? You decide...James Annanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04318741813895533700noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9959776.post-47767301150392267732007-04-28T06:51:00.000+01:002007-04-28T06:51:00.000+01:00the response to climate science is now value-laden...<I>the response to climate science is now value-laden, so much so that it clouds the science itself.</I><BR/><BR/>Fergus,<BR/><BR/>I can bring two recent occasions to mind where reviewers requested that some (IMO accurate, clear and scientifically appropriate) language was changed so as to avoid the risk of appearing to lend support to a "sceptic" point of view. I was an author on one paper, the other was by a colleague on a very different topic.<BR/><BR/>GMB,<BR/><BR/>I hope you feel better after that. Now go and wash your mouth out.James Annanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04318741813895533700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9959776.post-11665036610807694142007-04-28T06:11:00.000+01:002007-04-28T06:11:00.000+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9959776.post-16414034392594111122007-04-27T23:29:00.000+01:002007-04-27T23:29:00.000+01:00Tom,Maybe you should have read to the end of my po...Tom,<BR/><BR/>Maybe you should have read to the end of my post...James Annanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04318741813895533700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9959776.post-88558123029464733762007-04-27T18:41:00.000+01:002007-04-27T18:41:00.000+01:00It's a joke on YOU. Goog before you blog:http://w...It's a joke on YOU. Goog before you blog:<BR/><BR/>http://www.snopes.com/humor/letters/daylight.asp<BR/><BR/>But, I guess the global warming discourse is so bad at the low end that it's as plausible than some of the sincerely posited theories.Tom Adamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15096859615238138889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9959776.post-58114490373536300142007-04-26T11:59:00.000+01:002007-04-26T11:59:00.000+01:00Henk Tennekes, one of the FORPS,makes an interesti...Henk Tennekes, one of the FORPS,makes an interesting observation in the comments here: http://climatesci.colorado.edu/2007/<BR/>04/24/checks-and-balances-in-climate-<BR/>assessment/<BR/>in response to a question I asked him: that the response to climate science is now value-laden, so much so that it clouds the science itself.<BR/><BR/>If the public are looking for values which reflect their concerns, then perhaps this is the 'frame' in which effective discourse can take place.<BR/>Sorry; that doesn't seem very clear, but you get the idea?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986271841074352598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9959776.post-86473280983364000032007-04-26T09:50:00.000+01:002007-04-26T09:50:00.000+01:00Well it was all a joke.As to your comment: sorry, ...Well it was all a joke.<BR/><BR/>As to your comment: sorry, I've updated it for attribution. As to the beer: sorry about that too, but you were to un-slack to find :-(William M. Connolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05836299130680534926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9959776.post-90820432272186121672007-04-26T04:53:00.000+01:002007-04-26T04:53:00.000+01:00I find that the headline does not say "Daylight ex...I find that the headline does not say "Daylight exacerbates warming",<BR/>Thus, it is a matter of feeling ... whether a shift of workplace<BR/>schedule by one hour makes people feel that the world have warmed. <BR/>And the answer may be yes, though not necesarily so.<BR/><BR/>Daylight is a real energy source. When we walk outdoors under clear <BR/>weather, we feel hotter with sunshine than without, all other factors<BR/>such as temperature, humidity and wind speed being equal.<BR/>If we work outdoors all day under clear weather, working under more<BR/>daylight is likely to make us feel warmer.<BR/><BR/>But let's think that air temperature is the representative variable.<BR/>In most locations, the maximum in the diurnal cycle of air temperature <BR/>occurs around in the aftrenoon. If we take assume that the curve is<BR/>symmetrical and the peak is at 1 p.m., and if we take 9 a.m. to 5 p.m.<BR/>as the normal work hours, the added hour (8 - 9 a.m. standard time) <BR/>is likely to be cooler than the removed hour (4 - 5 p.m. standard time).<BR/><BR/>If we work in fully air-conditioned offices, however, the above fact<BR/>comes to our mind only when we think about expenditure of the offices.<BR/>If air-con is on just when people are working, the shift is likely<BR/>to be real saving. (But what difference if air-con is on all the time?)<BR/><BR/><BR/>Maybe the temperature at "walking hours" is more important than the<BR/>temperature at work hours for perception of warmth by indoor workers.<BR/>Suppose that the "normal" workers commute at 8 - 9 a.m. and 5 - 6 p.m.,<BR/>"dailyight saving time" makes them walk in cooler condition in the<BR/>morning and in warmer condition in the evening. The magnitude of<BR/>difference is likely to be similar in terms of temperature.<BR/>But how in terms of feeling? I guess that many Japanese people office<BR/>workers do not like to walk at 4 - 5 p.m. standard time in summer, and<BR/>that they do not feel compensated with somewhat more confortable morning.<BR/>(This is one of the reasons why I do not promote DST in Japan.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com